1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Stargazing scientists at NASA are confident that when the next few decades humans will discover the very first signs of extraterrestrial life. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Yet some believe it's entirely possible alien craft have already visited Earth. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Large black flying object. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Hey calm down calm down. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 But extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:33,000 In this series I'm going to investigate some of the most remarkable and recent UFO sightings from around the world. 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 They saw something really strange in the sky that day. 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,000 And I'll be joined by renowned astrophysicist and space journalist Sarah Cruders. 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,000 The thing is with something so extraordinary like this we've got to look at all the more logical explanations. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 I still think this can be explained by science. 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,000 As together we'll separate back from fiction once and for all. 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 That is an unidentified flying object. 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 I knew you were going to say that and yes it is. 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 It's one of the greatest UFO mysteries of all time. 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 From our specially created UFO investigation hub we'll speak to experts. 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,000 We have no conventional explanation for what we are seeing here. 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Whistle blowers. 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Anytime you step out of ranks in an organization like mine there's obviously going to be some repercussions. 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 And first hand witnesses. 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 There was this massive boomerang. 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 It was at least a mile to a mile and a half wide. 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,000 It was huge. 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Wow that's just spooked me now. 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 And finally answer the big question. 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Are we alone in the universe? 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Whatever they are they're not of this world. 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 The truth is out there. 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Well actually it might be. 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 In January 2021. 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,000 700 declassified CIA files were dumped on a public archive called the Black Vault. 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 And it reads like sci-fi. 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 From a sighting of a fiery sphere. 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 The truth is out there. 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Well actually it might be. 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 In January 2021. 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 700 declassified CIA files were dumped on a public archive called the Black Vault. 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 From a sighting of a fiery sphere in a Russian town. 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 To an unidentifiable flying craft in Azerbaijan. 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000 But of the millions of official and unofficial UFO sightings reported around the world. 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,000 It's the reports that come from highly respected civilian and military pilots. 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 But are the most difficult to explain. 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 In 2004. 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,000 US Navy fighter jet pilots operating from the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier. 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Filmed UFOs prowling the skies of San Diego. 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 They're all going against the wind. 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 The wind's 100.5 knots. 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 The leaking of this jaw dropping footage. 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Along with two further sightings by pilots in 2015. 49 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,000 The US Navy fighter jet pilots operating from the US Navy fighter jet pilots. 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 In 2015. 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Oh my gosh. 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Forced the Pentagon to officially confirm their authenticity. 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Where you've got something that was taken from a military aircraft. 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 With forward looking infrared cameras or whatever. 55 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 It's authentic. 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 And in 2013. 57 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 A US customs patrol plane captured a truly remarkable UFO. 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 On its cockpit camera. 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,000 It shows an object traveling pretty fast. 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Very low. 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Over the land. 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And then over the sea. 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 And a couple of really really bizarre things happen. 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 This object at one point goes into the ocean. 65 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 And then comes out again. 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 At one point it appears to split into two. 67 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 And then it's out of sight. 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 And then it's out of sight. 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Unidentified. 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 That is exactly the same conclusion. 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 With regard to the Nimitz sighting. 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Unidentified. 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 When Top Gun pilots tangle with UFOs. 74 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,000 The world sits up and listens. 75 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,000 But it's not just military personnel. 76 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 They're encountering mysterious objects in the clouds. 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 It's also highly trained commercial pilots. 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 And one of the most extraordinary sightings took place. 79 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Very close to home. 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Off the west coast of Ireland. 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 In November 2018. 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 British Airways Flight BA94. 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Was en route from Montreal Canada to London Heathrow. 84 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Nine hours into an uneventful Atlantic crossing. 85 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Something inexplicable happened. 86 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Out of the cockpit window. 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 The pilots noticed a strange bright orb. 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Streaking across the dawn sky. 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 So she made contact with Shannon Air Traffic Control. 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 And this is a real time recording. 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Of that conversation. 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Any military traffic you've got right now? 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 There's nothing showing on either primary or secondary. 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Okay it was moving so far. 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Just like you said. 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 It's a little over three. 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 But yes. 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Alongside you? 99 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Just to... 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 To... 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 To the north. 102 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 The view is so bright light. 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 And then it's just this here. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 At a very high speed. 105 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 And here it is wondering. 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 You didn't think it was likely to live in the course. 107 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 You're just wondering what's that for the day? 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 The... 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 The... 110 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 A second witness. 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 A Norwegian airline pilot. 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Had also seen something strange. 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 There's to be multiple objects. 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Follow the pace of the trajectory. 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Very bright. 116 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Where we were. 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 And then a third pilot. 118 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Abort Virgin Flight 76. 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Reported the same thing? 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Also saw that in our limit clock position. 121 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Or two bright lights. 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Limit clocks into... 123 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Back over to the right. 124 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 And then time away at... 125 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 The speed at least. 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Okay so you know that other aircraft in the air have also reported the same thing. 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 So we're going to have a look at that. 128 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 But it was just the... 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 No. 130 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Yeah. Very interesting. 131 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 The... 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 The... 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 The... 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,000 The... 135 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,000 The... 136 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 The... 137 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Clearly something very unusual happened in the sky over Ireland. 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 In November 2018. 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 This unique UFO encounter, 140 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Witnessed by seasoned pilots, 141 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Is one of the most credible mysteries of the modern age. 142 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 What did the pilots really see that November morning? 143 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 And are we ready to discover the truth? 144 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 The... 145 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Sarah, 146 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Pilots, not just one pilot, 147 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Two pilots and other pilots backing them up, 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 More witnesses. 149 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 No I will agree with you on this. 150 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 This is really intriguing. 151 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 The fact that pilots spend their life in the sky, 152 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 They know what's up there. 153 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 So if they're saying they spotted something unusual, 154 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 We need to listen to that. 155 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 It wasn't pitch black either. 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 It was around 6.47am, November the 9th. 157 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 So that would have been sort of like, 158 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Daylight was about 7.13am, 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000 So it would have been sort of twilight. 160 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Yeah, so you've got our first almost daytime UFO sighting, 161 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 From the air. 162 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Okay, how do we dig deeper? 163 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Well there's actually an organisation called NARCAP, 164 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Where pilots can report all these kinds of unusual sightings, 165 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 In the sky. 166 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 And we're going to speak to a guy called Ted Rowe, 167 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Who's the director of investigations at NARCAP. 168 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Ted, we're investigating some mysterious sightings, 169 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Above the west coast of Ireland. 170 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Can you tell us what you know about these recordings, 171 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 And these sightings? 172 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Several commercial aircraft observed unusual lights, 173 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Over Ireland, while they were inbound to Heathrow. 174 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,000 The British Airways aircraft said it passed close by them, 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 It fought varying a way to the north. 176 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,000 The objects were described as moving very, very quickly. 177 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 So faster than the airliners, 178 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Which were probably doing around 500 miles an hour. 179 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,000 So there's some questions we have about this particular incident, 180 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 It's not clear or cut. 181 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 And in terms of this incident, 182 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Did the Irish Aviation Authority investigate this? 183 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 That's my understanding. 184 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 They did? 185 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 So there is an investigation which has been conducted? 186 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 It's my understanding that the investigation is still ongoing. 187 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Ted, what do you think it could possibly be? 188 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Well at this point I would say it's a toss-up, 189 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Between incoming space junk, you know, falling debris, 190 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 And possibly a UAP. 191 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 We need to resolve whether it changed directions 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Or climbed away from the aircraft. 193 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 If it did either of those two things, 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Then it can't be space junk. 195 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Pilots would know the rules of flight, 196 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 So surely for them to make a report, 197 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 They must have seen something that wasn't following the rules. 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 That's right. 199 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Whether pilots know what they saw or not, 200 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 I find them to be pretty good observers. 201 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 I've never had a pilot come to me and tell me that he knew what he saw. 202 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 He told me what he saw. 203 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Sometimes we came up with unidentified, 204 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Sometimes we came up with misidentifications of human activity. 205 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,000 And how unusual is it for pilots to report seeing things like this? 206 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 It's not unusual, 207 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:47,000 But I will tell you that we get more reports when pilots retire. 208 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 It's one of the first things they do sometimes. 209 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 But oftentimes they won't do it while they're employed. 210 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Okay, thank you for that Ted. Great to talk to you. 211 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Thank you Ted. 212 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Well, if you need anything. 213 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Thank you. 214 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Okay, take care. 215 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Bye Ted. 216 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Well there you go Sarah, there's a lot of things we can rule out. 217 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 We can rule out meteors. 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Can we? 219 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Yeah. 220 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Can we? 221 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Meteors don't float. 222 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 But he also said pilots can sometimes be wrong. 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 We only had one account where it's veering upwards. 224 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 So I'm still on the fence with meteors. 225 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Well space junk, space shrimp doesn't fall up. 226 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 But we still don't know the angles. 227 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 We still don't have enough information in my opinion. 228 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 But it's so intriguing. 229 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 You know if I saw a UFO, I'd be telling everyone. 230 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 I'd be shouting it from the rooftops. 231 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,000 I don't understand why pilots are so reluctant to share this information. 232 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Well first of all I'm surprised you haven't seen a UFO. 233 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 But I have got just the man for you. 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 His name can't be revealed. 235 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 We're going to call him Simon. 236 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 And he's actually a former radar operator with NATO. 237 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 And he can tell us more about this. 238 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Simon, why can't you reveal your identity? 239 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Well the military is not very keen on people that reveal information about unidentified objects. 240 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Being an air traffic controller for NATO, 241 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,000 you must be privy to quite a few secrets. 242 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. 243 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Coming up. 244 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Your record of that's a plane. 245 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 No, it's a plane. Look at the shape of it. 246 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Oh hang on, is it the shape of it? 247 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 There, there, yeah. 248 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 That's something we can't explain. 249 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 And Simon gives us some astonishing information 250 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 about what we're not being told. 251 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Well I mean if the evidence pointing to what you're saying is pointing to, 252 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 it's mind-boggling. 253 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 I'm interested in the truth. 254 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 I'm not a discoverer. 255 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 We're investigating a major UFO sighting 256 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 of the West Coast of Ireland in November 2018. 257 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 When pilots from three different airlines 258 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 all reported the appearance of strange craft in the sky. 259 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Moving at speeds and speed, 260 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 moving at speeds and trajectories never seen before. 261 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,000 I'm about to find out from an ex-NATO radar operator 262 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 who's agreed to speak on condition of anonymity. 263 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Why cases like this are often kept secret by the authorities. 264 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,000 What information do you have about unidentified objects? 265 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Well, that has of course been a situation 266 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,000 with almost mid-air collisions with the UFO in the past. 267 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,000 And this is not something the government wants to reveal. 268 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 So is this why pilots are so afraid to come forward 269 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 because they feel intimidated by governments? 270 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Not just by governments. 271 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,000 The situation is that when a pilot reports a UFO, 272 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 there is an investigation. 273 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 So that could mean he's been tested of drugs, alcohol use, 274 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 or psychological problems. 275 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,000 And that could lead to being fired from the airline. 276 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 So if a pilot was to see something in the sky, 277 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 he would be reluctant in your opinion 278 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 to tell his bosses that he'd seen it? 279 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Just too dangerous for them 280 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 because either they will be right, really killed, 281 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 or it will have consequences for the job. 282 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,000 In your opinion, are the alien beings flying off skies? 283 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Officially you don't talk about those kind of stuff 284 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,000 because the general rule is that 285 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 when you say you do not exist, you do not talk about it. 286 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Yes, I think they exist. 287 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 They must exist. 288 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 We're not alone in the universe. 289 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 And I'm sure that they visit us. 290 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 What motivates you to come forward? 291 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Surely you're risking yourself by speaking to us? 292 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 I'm interested in the truth. 293 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000 I'm not interested in the cover-up. 294 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Simon, you say you're looking for the truth, 295 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 but it's hard to find that truth 296 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 when pilots won't talk about the sightings 297 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 and they're also being suppressed by governments. 298 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Where do we go? 299 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 How do we establish what's fact and what's fiction? 300 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,000 First of all, there is no reason for those pilots to lie. 301 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,000 There are generals, there are colonels, 302 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,000 high brass, they know about the UFOs, 303 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,000 but they want to talk about it because of the consequences. 304 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 But when they're on the dyke bed, for example, 305 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,000 there was an American military high-staff Pentagon Colonel, 306 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 I think it was. 307 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 He started talking on his death bed. 308 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 So the moment there are no consequences anymore, 309 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 for those people, they will come forward and talk about it, 310 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 but not as long as they live. 311 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Are you putting yourself at risk? 312 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 You're essentially a whistleblower. 313 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Yeah, well, I don't know. 314 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 I mean, a couple years ago, 315 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,000 I was working on the forum, 316 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,000 and we were approached by someone, an American, 317 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 and he said that there was no wise for us to continue. 318 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,000 The government is definitely interested in looking into UFOs, 319 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,000 and especially following the people that are interested in UFOs. 320 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Well, I mean, if the evidence points to what you're saying is pointing to, 321 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,000 it's, I think, it's mind-boggling, mind-blowing. 322 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 We can agree on that. 323 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Simon, thanks for talking to us. Stay safe. 324 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Thank you. Yeah, thank you. 325 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 And it's been fascinating. All right. 326 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Well, there you go, Sarah. 327 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 According to Simon, we've got shadowy organisations 328 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 using fear and suppression 329 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 to stop pilots calling in these incidents 330 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 to keep Pentagon generals quiet until their dying day. 331 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 It is quite frightening as well, 332 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,000 and the fact that he's potentially risking his life to speak to us, 333 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 that's chilling. 334 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 What is going on that needs to be covered up? 335 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Actual UFO, don't it? 336 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,000 UFO. 337 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,000 UFO sightings have spiked dramatically over the last 12 months, 338 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 and in cloudless skies, 339 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 no one has better place to have a close encounter with an alien craft 340 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 than a pilot. 341 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,000 But we have uncovered a culture of fear and suspicion 342 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 around the reporting of these sightings, 343 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,000 which suggests an untold number are going unreported 344 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 or may have been covered up. 345 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,000 It makes the instant that took place off the Irish coast in November 2018 346 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 all the more compelling. 347 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 The pilots of multiple passenger planes heading to London Heathrow 348 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:13,000 were so shocked and so convinced by what they'd seen from their cockpit windows 349 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000 that they all called it in to air traffic control. 350 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 The BA pilot says that we saw bright lights, 351 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 and then it just disappeared at a very high speed, 352 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 and then the Virgin pilot comes on and backs him up. 353 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 We also saw that in our midnight clock position. 354 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 We saw two bright lights, midnight clocks, 355 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,000 seem to back over to the right, 356 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 and then climb away at the speed at least now, in perspective. 357 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 So, um... 358 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 That's unusual. 359 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Pilots are incredible witnesses, 360 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 because they spend their whole life in the skies. 361 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 They know what's unusual up there. 362 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 So if they're saying, 363 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 this is something I can't explain, 364 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 and then you've got people backing them up, 365 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 that's huge. 366 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 But what makes this sighting off the west coast of Ireland in 2018 367 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 even more extraordinary is that it was not a one-off. 368 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 In fact, it was just the beginning. 369 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Ireland has become a UFO hotspot. 370 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Last year, 105 UFO sightings were reported to Irish authorities. 371 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 And it's not just pilots seeing these anomalous objects. 372 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Ordinary people are capturing an increasing number of mysterious sightings 373 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 on their mobile phones. 374 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 And we've managed to get hold of video evidence 375 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 of some of the most recent examples. 376 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,000 The first one is Anilong, Cante Down. 377 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Right. And this is strange, Sarah. 378 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 RUNNING 379 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Is it a disc? Is it an orb? 380 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,000 It's almost... Look, see, the bird went past, 381 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 and you can see that's a solid object, where this is almost opaque. 382 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Are you saying it's a balloon? 383 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Potentially, but it's moving rather fast. 384 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 It's moving really quickly. 385 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 If that was a balloon, it wouldn't move that quickly. 386 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,000 It depends on the wind speed of the day. 387 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Oh, true, it's close. 388 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 And it's the fact it's slightly opaque. 389 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 That's what makes me curious. 390 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,000 OK, let's go to Belfast now. 391 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 OK. 392 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Now, look at that. This... 393 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 It's a plane. 394 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Right, look at the shape of it. 395 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Oh, hang on, is it this over here? 396 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 That's a plane. No, look at this side. 397 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000 That's a plane, and that's travelling so much quicker than it. 398 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Can we just go back a minute? Just go back. 399 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 There you go, yeah, so we've got that there. 400 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Yeah, a plane. Which I think looks like a plane. 401 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Agreed. But that doesn't look like that, look. 402 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000 OK. Then if you go slightly forward, wait... 403 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 There. There, yeah. 404 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 There. That's something we can't explain. 405 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I'm confused now. 406 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 As far as I'm concerned, we can't explain any of it. 407 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 It's the fact that multiple people 408 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 are seeing unusual things in Ireland. 409 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,000 OK. Where do we go now? 410 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 How do we continue with our investigation? 411 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,000 And how do we begin to explain this sudden rush 412 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 of UFO sightings in Ireland? 413 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,000 So I've got someone who can potentially help us with these videos. 414 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000 His name is Chris McMurray. 415 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 He's from the Northern Ireland UFO Society, 416 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 and he's spent years investigating these mass sightings. 417 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Chris, can you tell us more about these recent videos 418 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 that we've been watching? 419 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Oh, yeah, we'll start with the one in Anaheim, 420 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000 which was seen on the 8th of July 2020. 421 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Now, that is the most surprising video that we've seen. 422 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 There was no sign from it. 423 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 There's no flight records to say that any aircraft 424 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 was in the air in that area at that time. 425 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000 So that definitely does remain unexplained. 426 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 The Belfast video, we initially thought it was 427 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 a transatlantic airliner or an aircraft 428 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 taking off from Belfast at the airport. 429 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 That's what Sarah thinks. 430 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Yeah, however, we've looked into that. 431 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 We've looked at historical flight records 432 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 and the only aircraft that was nearby in the vicinity 433 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000 within the next 30 miles or so 434 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 was an aircraft taxiing at a different airport. 435 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 It could be maybe a military aircraft. 436 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 The only time I'm aware that they turn off their transponders 437 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 is if they're in operations. 438 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Now, flying over friendly airspace, 439 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 they should be using their transponders. 440 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 So I can't completely rule it out, 441 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 but it doesn't convince me that it was an aircraft. 442 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Chris, have you heard the pilot audio from the BA pilot 443 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 and the Virgin pilot seeing something above your skies? 444 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 I have heard it, yes. 445 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,000 What do you think they saw then? 446 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Well, the mainstream theory behind it 447 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,000 is that they saw a meteor entering into the atmosphere. 448 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000 I would contest that simply because it seemed 449 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,000 for quite a long duration of time. 450 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 And to say this to the pilot, 451 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 which I think is quite insulting to the pilot 452 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000 of someone who's had that many years of experience flying, 453 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 who would have seen things like this before 454 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 and what you saw was a meteor breaking up in the sky. 455 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Especially when he says he saw two bright lights 456 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 that seemed to bank over to the right 457 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 and then climb away at speed. 458 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,000 You know, meteors don't bank to the right and climb, do they? 459 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,000 No, meteors don't take those weird turnings. 460 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 There are instances where meteors would bounce off 461 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 the Earth's atmosphere, 462 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 but this was far too low for that to happen. 463 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000 It might be something different. 464 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 OK, Chris, listen, it's been fascinating talking to you. 465 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Keep looking at the skies, kid. 466 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Thank you. You too, man. OK. 467 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 OK, so let's look at what we've got. 468 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 We've got the cockpit audio from British Airways 469 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000 and Virgin pilots talking to the air traffic control, 470 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 saying they've seen something that's very, very strange in the sky. 471 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 They don't know what it is. 472 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 OK, it was moving so far. 473 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 I was expecting a little of the heat, but yes, thank you. 474 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Now, these pilots are used to seeing things in the sky, 475 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 so let's freak them out. 476 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000 We've got multiple other sightings on the ground in Ireland as well. 477 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 All over Ireland? Why is Ireland such a hot spot? 478 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 I don't know. 479 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Coming up, Sarah and I continue our enquiries 480 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,000 into the series of unexplained sightings in Ireland. 481 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 It could be multiple things, Craig. 482 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 It could be hysteria, it could be the fact that clear sky 483 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 is less light pollution. 484 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 And we venture further afield. 485 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,000 The pilot saw a strange light out of the cockpit. 486 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Watch your expert opinion on this incident. 487 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000 We're not quite sure what we're dealing with. 488 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 And we examine startling new evidence 489 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000 from other international UFO hotspots. 490 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 I've never seen anything like that before. 491 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Look at this now. 492 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 You've got a cylinder and an orb. 493 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000 I genuinely can't explain this. 494 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Are we alone in the universe? 495 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Or somewhere out there, 496 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000 our intelligent being staring into the night sky 497 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 and asking the same question? 498 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,000 And is the answer stranger than we can ever imagine? 499 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000 That's nuts. That's two nights in a row. 500 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 An estimated 5% of UFO sightings worldwide 501 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 can't be explained. 502 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 David, that is the weirdest thing. 503 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 What the f*** is that? 504 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 But there's one European country that appears to attract 505 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000 more interstellar visitors than any other. 506 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Ireland has become a UFO hotspot. 507 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000 And one encounter stands out from the rest, 508 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 a major sighting by multiple commercial pilots. 509 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 In November 2018. 510 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 That's all right. 511 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Right, right. 512 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Left, left, right. 513 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Left, right, right. 514 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Left, right, right. 515 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Left, right, right. 516 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Left, right, right. 517 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Left, right, right. 518 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Left, right, right. 519 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Shannan Air Traffic Control 520 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 received numerous reports of mysterious lights 521 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 and unidentified craft shooting across the morning sky 522 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 at 30,000 feet. 523 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Here to be multiple objects following the pace of the trajectory. 524 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Very bright. Where are we? 525 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Where extraterrestrials behind this extraordinary event 526 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000 and is something bigger going on in Irish airspace? 527 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 The speed is at the top. 528 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,000 We're leaving no stone unturned to get to the truth. 529 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Let's look at what we've got. 530 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 We've got the cockpit audio from British Airways 531 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 and Virgin pilots talking to the Air Traffic Control 532 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 saying they've seen something that's very, very strange 533 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 in the sky. They don't know what it is. 534 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 It was moving so fast, it's like the 10-mil of the sea. 535 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Alongside you. 536 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Get to Kalavanagh, left-hand side 537 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 and then rapidly reach to the north. 538 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,000 And we've got really recent sightings in Earth, faster. 539 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 County Down, County Meath. 540 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Something's going on in Ireland. 541 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Why is Ireland such a hotspot? 542 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 It could be multiple things, Craig. 543 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 It could be hysteria. 544 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000 You know, you hear your neighbour saying he UFO 545 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 and then suddenly you're like, I can see something also. 546 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 It could be the fact that people are just looking up more. 547 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Clear skies, less light pollution. 548 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 But I am curious about the pilots. 549 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 That is certainly, as you say, incredible witnesses. 550 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 And they're up in the skies all the time. 551 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 They know when they see something which is unusual. 552 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 The next logical step in our investigation 553 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 is to compare the report from the pilot over Ireland 554 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 in November 2018 555 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000 with similar sightings by pilots elsewhere in the world. 556 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 So I caught up with Nick Pope, former M.O.D. investigator 557 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 and UFO expert earlier. 558 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 And he has more to say on this. 559 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 In terms of sightings from pilots, 560 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 we've got incredible witnesses. 561 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 There's numerous accounts of pilots seeing things 562 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 that they can't explain. 563 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 And these are people who are aware of the skies 564 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 more than any other people. 565 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 And there was one particular incident, a flight heading from the U.S. 566 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 in the year 2020 to Mexico, 567 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 where they saw this unexplained object. 568 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Can you just talk us through that incident? 569 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Well, this was an interesting case, 570 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,000 but also, frankly, a disturbing case. 571 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000 The pilot and the first officer 572 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 saw a strange light 573 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000 out of the cockpit. 574 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 And their initial thought was that, 575 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 oh, look, there's a meteor. 576 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 And then the thing just stopped. 577 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000 It's like an orb, man. Look at that. 578 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Oh, man, that is phenomenal. 579 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Dude, I'm so glad you saw that. 580 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000 And you saw it drop out of the sky and just... 581 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000 And just stopped? 582 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Dude, it's awesome, man. 583 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Look at that. 584 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Oh, this is awesome. 585 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000 It was almost as if it was tracking the aircraft. 586 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 And at one point in this encounter, 587 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 there was actually a beam of light 588 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 that seemed to be shone from the UFO, 589 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 whatever it was, towards the aircraft. 590 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Oh, man, look at that thing, dude. 591 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000 And in your expert opinion, 592 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 with your background working for the MOD, 593 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000 investigating UFOs, 594 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000 what's your opinion on this incident? 595 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 It wasn't another aircraft, 596 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 it wasn't a meteor, 597 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 and you left with this uncomfortable feeling 598 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 that there's something, 599 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000 but we're not quite sure what we're dealing with. 600 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 And in terms of sightings from pilots again, 601 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 this isn't the only case of unusual lights 602 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 being seen in the night sky. 603 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Yeah, in Chile, 604 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 they have had a number of cases 605 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000 where they've had some very interesting sightings. 606 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 In particular, there's a piece of film footage 607 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 from a Navy helicopter 608 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000 that they spent, I think, two years looking at 609 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 and said, 610 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000 we have no conventional explanation 611 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000 for what we are seeing here. 612 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 So, a Naval helicopter in Chile 613 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,000 in 2014 recorded something unexplained on camera? 614 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Yes, and one of the other fascinating things about this 615 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000 is at one point you can see what looks to be 616 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,000 almost like a vapor trail, a contrail. 617 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 It looks as if the thing, 618 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000 some people have speculated that it's venting, 619 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 I don't know, plasma or something, 620 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000 but something's coming off this thing. 621 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 They went through everything. 622 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Were there any aircraft helicopters in the area 623 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 where the balloon launches? 624 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 What about an astronomical or meteorological explanation? 625 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000 And just drew a couple of pictures 626 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 and just drew a complete blank. 627 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 What do you think that is, sir? 628 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 I think there's a lot of unknowns, 629 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 but what's interesting to me is the shape. 630 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 It looks similar to one of the videos we saw for Ireland. 631 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 I don't know whether they're related or not, 632 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 but it's that same orb-type shape. 633 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Can I have a closer look at this? 634 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000 It does look a bit like a Chinook helicopter. 635 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,000 But this is moving much, much slower than the other videos. 636 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000 I mean, the Chilean government investigated this thoroughly. 637 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000 They still don't know what it is. 638 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 It appears to be venting something. 639 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Yeah, it's like an exhaust fume or something. 640 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 I've never seen anything like that before. 641 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000 I've never seen anything like it either. 642 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000 And then it separates looks. 643 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000 So do you think that might have been sort of an exhaust? 644 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Like, so it's decided to fire itself towards the ground or something? 645 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Or is it two separate objects? 646 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Has it split into two? 647 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000 But look there now, you've got a cylinder and an orb. 648 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 I genuinely can't explain this. 649 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Wow, that's just spooked me now. 650 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,000 OK, Sarah, you as a scientist, a renowned astrophysicist, Stephen, 651 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000 can you explain to me what's going on there? 652 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000 I can't explain it. 653 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 It's genuinely interesting. 654 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000 It's genuinely something I've never seen before. 655 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 I can't give you the answer to what's going on in that video. 656 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000 OK. 657 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000 We've been sidetracked though. Let's get back to our main case. 658 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,000 We've got credible witnesses, pilots talking in the air to air traffic control. 659 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,000 We've got multiple sightings in multiple venues. 660 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Well, fast, carry down, carry me. 661 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000 How do we move this investigation forward? 662 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Well, I think we need to treat them as separate events 663 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 because what happened in Ireland might not be related to what's happened in Chile. 664 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000 But it's certainly interesting. It's certainly a hotspot. 665 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000 I think we need to speak to someone else 666 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 and I've got the perfect person who can shed some light on this. 667 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Coming up, we meet a scientist with an incredible explanation 668 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 for what might be going on in the skies over Ireland and Chile. 669 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,000 It's quite possible we have a controlled autonomous surveillance of the Earth 670 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000 by these anomalous objects. 671 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000 He thinks we're being watched. 672 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 There is more stuff going on than we know about. 673 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 And they're scared to tell us that we'll be frightened to death. 674 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000 We're on a mission to uncover the truth about what commercial 675 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000 and military pilots are really seeing in our skies 676 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000 and reporting back as encounters with UFOs. 677 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,000 And in particular, the extraordinary aerial encounter that took place in 2018 678 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 off the west coast of Ireland 679 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:12,000 when multiple commercial pilots reported sightings of unidentified flying objects. 680 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Before we come to a verdict, let's look at what we've got here. 681 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,000 We've got the cockpit audio of three separate pilots talking to Air Traffic Control 682 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 about seeing something very, very strange in the sky. 683 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 The BA pilot radio was in. 684 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 It was moving so fast we saw bright lights. 685 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 It disappeared at a very high speed. 686 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,000 There have been multiple objects following the takeover of the trajectory. 687 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 They're very bright where we were. 688 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000 A Virgin pilot says they're two bright lights, multiple objects, very bright. 689 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,000 So they've all seen something very unusual in the sky. 690 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000 So far, we've spoken to someone from NARCAP who deals with pilots 691 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000 and unusual sightings that they have in the sky. 692 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,000 How unusual is it for pilots to report seeing things like this? 693 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,000 I will tell you that we get more reports when pilots retire. 694 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000 We've spoken to a UFO expert, Simon, a former radar operator with NATO. 695 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 There's two dangers for them. 696 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 I'm interested in the truth. 697 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 I'm not interested in the cover-up. 698 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 But despite the mounting evidence, 699 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Sarah wants to see if there's a plausible scientific explanation 700 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000 for some precedented series of UFO sightings. 701 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 I still want to explore this idea that it could be an astronomical phenomenon. 702 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000 So we, Craig, are going to speak to an astronomer. 703 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 His name is Dr. Ayman Ansborough. 704 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 What do you think is going on? 705 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,000 There were indeed multiple pilots in multiple aircraft 706 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000 linked into air traffic control at Shannon. 707 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 And we're not dealing with one object here. 708 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 There wasn't any trail behind them. 709 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,000 And I thought, well, maybe it could be meteor or fireballs. 710 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000 At the time, I think it was about a few days beforehand, 711 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:05,000 the torad meteor shower does have a characteristic, 712 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 which is a horizontal movement of meteors. 713 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:15,000 But these objects that were seen by pilots don't resemble anything like meteors. 714 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,000 The pilot described it, Ayman, as changing direction. 715 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 I mean, do meteors change direction? 716 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 No, meteors don't change direction. 717 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,000 And they come straight down in a curve, so to speak, down to the horizon. 718 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000 I thought of other objects, possibly sprites. 719 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000 This would be a type of lightning, 720 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,000 but going in the opposite direction, but in the upper stratosphere. 721 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000 But that doesn't fit either. 722 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Where these objects were seen was at 30,000 feet, 723 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000 more or less on the same level as the pilots. 724 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,000 But there have been cases with meteors where they actually go into the Earth's atmosphere, 725 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 they don't get low enough, and then they skip out again. 726 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 It's a rare astronomical phenomenon, so it does happen. 727 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,000 But not that long, Sharon, not at 30,000 feet. 728 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000 The thing is, with something so extraordinary like this, 729 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 we've got to look at all the more logical explanations. 730 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Yes, I take her point there, Sarah. 731 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000 You're quite right. 732 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,000 They would bounce off from the atmosphere, but at a very high altitude. 733 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 And it can't be space junk, either, can it? 734 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Because space junk doesn't fly up with either, does it? 735 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Yeah, I think the problem is gravity. 736 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,000 It's so low down that it doesn't make sense for it to go the opposite direction. 737 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,000 So what you're saying is that we can rule out space junk, space debris. 738 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000 We can potentially rule out the meteor. 739 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,000 So in your opinion, then, how unusual is this sighting from the cockpit of these aircraft? 740 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 This is fairly common. 741 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000 It's common? 742 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:51,000 There's thousands of pilots over the last 70 or 80 years that are seeing these constructs. 743 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 You know, cylindrical objects, triangular type objects. 744 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:02,000 I decided to get computerized data of thousands and thousands of reports 745 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,000 and started studying this, and one day we made a breakthrough. 746 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:17,000 And sure enough, the model was showing that there was a pattern to it. 747 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000 There were cycles to it. 748 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 What was the pattern? What was the cycle? 749 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000 I mean, give it to you. 750 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:30,000 We thought it might be, you know, similar to what satellites do going around the Earth. 751 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 But it wasn't making sense. 752 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:40,000 And then one day we found that if we synchronized the orbits with the rotation of the Earth, 753 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000 lo and behold, it actually works. 754 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000 And it was testable. 755 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 And the theory is that... 756 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:57,000 that it's quite possible that we have a controlled autonomous surveillance of the Earth by these anomalous objects. 757 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Wow, that's just spooked me now. 758 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,000 We are being watched by a superior species. 759 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Is that what you're trying to say? 760 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:17,000 All I do know is that the constructs that people have been witnessing, going back 140 years, 761 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 appear to be intelligent. 762 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Hang on, it's a bold hypothesis, but there could be a more generic, less sexy reason for these cycles. 763 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Well, they're quite precise, actually. 764 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 So it's actually showing that we're here to have this... 765 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000 like a surveillance going on. 766 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Wow. 767 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Dr. Ayman, it's been fantastic talking to you. 768 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 You've certainly opened my eyes and you've freaked me out a little bit. 769 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 And I think you freaked Sarah out as well. 770 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000 Thank you so much, Ayman. 771 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,000 You're most welcome. 772 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Well, there you go. You wanted science, you wanted data, and you just got it. 773 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000 And he thinks we're being watched. 774 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,000 There is some credibility in the idea that we could potentially be being watched now, bear with me. 775 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:12,000 There is that potential that there are civilizations out there which are vastly more intelligent than us 776 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000 that just are watching us and don't want to communicate. 777 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:21,000 When I made the bold claim that, like, in a few decades' time, we'll find alien life forms. 778 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000 And you said, yeah, but there'll be microbial. 779 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Yes, that's us finding them. This is different. This is them finding us. 780 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,000 OK. 781 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,000 So within the next few decades, it's a case of when, not if, we will prove that we're not alone in the universe 782 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000 in terms of microbial life elsewhere in the solar system. 783 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,000 But in terms of aliens, intelligent life beyond Earth, that could be tomorrow. 784 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 That could be 100 years from now. We just don't know. 785 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000 I don't know. 786 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:54,000 In this investigation, with a master wealth of never-before-heard expert testimony and secret revelations, 787 00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:04,000 but have we got enough to make a final decision on what it was the pilots really saw up in the skies over Ireland in November 2018? 788 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Let's have a look at the board. 789 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:15,000 British Airways pilot, Virgin pilot, third pilot, all say they saw something very, very, very odd. 790 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000 So perhaps this is something we haven't even dreamt of. 791 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Perhaps it is something beyond the imagination. 792 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:26,000 And then there's Ted from Narcab, who says, so many pilots have seen so many things, 793 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000 but they're afraid to come forward and say, 794 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:36,000 I've seen so many pilots. I've seen so many things, but they're afraid to come forward because of the ridicule and the stigma. 795 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Whether pilots know what they saw or not, I find them to be pretty good observers. 796 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,000 I've never had a pilot come to me and tell me that he knew what he saw. He told me what he saw. 797 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Pilots spend more time in the sky than anyone else. 798 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000 They're the people to know what's strange and what's more common. 799 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,000 But at the same time, it could just be something natural that we haven't managed to explain yet. 800 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000 No detail of this case has escaped our forensic examination. 801 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000 And now, finally, it's time to put our cars on the table. 802 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Do the mysteries of this incredible UFO sighting hold up under scientific scrutiny, 803 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000 or should it be struck from the UFO files for good? 804 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Watch your verdict. 805 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000 I think this is very interesting. 806 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000 I'm going to say it's not been solved yet. 807 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Maybe I'm scared of being stigmatized. 808 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000 I believe in aliens. I believe in aliens. 809 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000 But I'm going to have to say that the jury's out. 810 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000 The jury's out. 811 00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:00,000 This extraordinary case now joins the thousands of other impossible to dismiss sightings from around the world. 812 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,000 The weight of evidence that UFOs exist is building at an ever-increasing pace. 813 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Hot off the press, another Pentagon authenticated sighting of an unidentified flying triangle 814 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000 has sparked a media frenzy. 815 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:26,000 And a frustrated public, desperate for answers, are forcing the authorities slowly but surely to disclose their secrets. 816 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,000 But for now, UFO hunting remains a dangerous game. 817 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:38,000 Always remember Simon, the radar operator, ex-NATO, who was so scared to come forward 818 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,000 that we had to disguise his identity and change his name. 819 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Are you putting yourself at risk? You're essentially a whistleblower. 820 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:53,000 Yeah, well, I don't know. We were approached by someone and he said that it was not wise for us to continue. 821 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000 He says there are shadowy forces out there who know lots of things that we don't know 822 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 and they're scared to tell us because we'd be frightened to death. 823 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:08,000 I am curious about Simon and why would the general on his deathbed at the Pentagon come out and say 824 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000 there is more stuff going on than we know about? 825 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:39,000 An unsolved case comes back to haunt a retired detective in the Stephen King adaptation, Mr. Mercedes, now streaming on SBS On Demand.